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Cocoa
2015-01-02, 03:08 PM
So, beat to death topic here, I'm going to bring it up again anyways

Nandrolone Phenylprop vs. Nandrolone Decanoate

I get that they're both nandrolone with different esters, but people seem to SWEAR that NPP gives noticeably less bloat. Almost like it doesn't even give undesirable bloat, it just adds fullness to muscles without spilling over into the waist/face.

Suppose a ratio of 500/500 Test/(NPP or Deca) is being used

For somebody starting at ~10% BF, AI being used regularly, is there going to a noticeable difference in bloat between Deca and NPP? Will Deca even bloat me much at all?

My diet is probably going to be around 3500 calories with something like 70g fat/350g protein/400g carbs. Pretty damn high in sodium, not going to lie.

Anyone who has experience with either (or preferably both) compounds have any thoughts?

DatDere
2015-01-02, 03:12 PM
On 600 test/450 deca looking like a cloud, having dreams about NPP.

Cocoa
2015-01-02, 03:12 PM
On 600 test/450 deca looking like a cloud, having dreams about NPP.

Thanks mate,

Could I ask what your BF% is?

God
2015-01-02, 03:20 PM
I'm on deca now at 800mg started at 600. I'm definitly more bloated than usual. Never in my life have I had a double chin. I'm also relitively lean probably 11-12%. I don't mind the bloat though it's really only on my face and abs the rest of me just looks full.

Hc7
2015-01-02, 03:26 PM
yes NPP will have a lot less bloat, although you will still have a softer look.

Jelet
2015-01-02, 03:29 PM
Ull get less bloat on npp. But still bloat from my experience.

Ull have a full look... But it will be watery full... Not hard dry full look..

But deca i gain 10lbs water on scale. Npp i only gain 2-3lbs water on scale...


Every1 is different.. But thats my experience

Cocoa
2015-01-02, 03:30 PM
Alright, thanks guys

I think I will just stick with my plan of test/NPP then, NPP isn't too much more expensive anyways

Kirov
2015-01-02, 05:20 PM
On test and deca. Growing beard to hide moon face.

Ace
2015-01-03, 12:14 AM
Currently running:
Test e 750mg/wk.
NPP 700mg wk
EQ 900mg wk
And taking aromasin and prami maybe 2x a week

And I'm not bloated. I'm not dry but I'm definitely not bloated. Face looks lean, visible abs and obliques.

The npp is giving me significant strength gains and a major increase in intensity.

Popeye
2015-01-03, 09:10 AM
On test and deca. Growing beard to hide moon face.

This lol.

Running NPP now. Still experiencing some bloat but not as bad as Deca. Lot less lethargy and acne too. Arms more vascular but face and midsection bloofier. I'm also running EQ too.

Dirty
2015-01-03, 11:56 AM
My avi is while on NPP , didn't get very bloated. 300mg npp

t1000ct
2015-01-03, 11:59 AM
My avi is while on NPP , didn't get very bloated. 300mg npp

What's your test dose and how's the strength increase been? Thinking about doing 500/300 test npp for 15-20 weeks

Dirty
2015-01-03, 01:15 PM
What's your test dose and how's the strength increase been? Thinking about doing 500/300 test npp for 15-20 weeks

300npp 300test prop

Strength has been unreal last 13 weeks.

Hired a strength coach. With that and NPP /prop in 13 weeks strength has went from :

Squat (knee sleeves) : 515 to 575
Bench (pause) : 405 to 470
Deadlift (no straps) : 555 to 605

6 more weeks to go on it. Adding in dbol at 60mg for last 6 weeks

Got a meet in 6 weeks gunna crush the 220 competition (raw) lol