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Cablez
2015-01-22, 06:37 PM
Aight. So, i want to bulk. Not yet. im currently at 197 at 14-16%bf. gonna cut till i reach 180 and do an all out bulk with test and tren.
how do i keep my test to have a the most muscle mass gains? 500mg test or 200mg test EW?
while i do 100mg tren ace EOD

Metalhead32
2015-01-22, 06:50 PM
Ima do 750 test, 1 g tren e

Kelii
2015-01-22, 07:18 PM
the option with more gear is gonna give you better gains

Itachi
2015-01-22, 07:24 PM
Me personally. If I use Tren again which I do honestly plan to I'm gonna do this. Because a decent amount of Test wrecked my prolactin .I'm only just now really recovering after dropping the Tren E, and blasting Prami at .5mgs ED for the past 2-3 weeks. No matter how much AI i used or what AI i used keeping my estrogen low did not see to do jack shit. So I'll keep test low as fuck and just use Prami

Test E 150-200mgs
Tren E 400-600mgs
Anadrol 100mgs from and back.
Prami .25mgs ED (you mat not need this but I like my dick to swing)

That would put some size on yah for sure.

Mirinkunt?
2015-01-22, 08:20 PM
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Mirinkunt?
2015-01-22, 08:21 PM
High test High tren of course. Test is fucking awesome, Tren is fucking awesome, what's not to love?

Just have caber and aromasin on hand and maybe also run a light proviron or mast dose as well and you'll be a god amongst men

Mitch666
2015-01-22, 08:24 PM
More test=more gains.


Srs fucking lol at low test high tren bulk unless you have high nandrolone in there too. I don't get why people are scared of water weight.


750 test 400 tren would be good imo. Then if you tolerate sides well with higher test and tren feel free to taper it up if you want

Itachi
2015-01-22, 08:26 PM
^^^ Idk brah. I get hit hardcore with lowered sex drive from Tren. Maybe proviron or Masteron would help but eh

Metalhead32
2015-01-22, 08:32 PM
^^^ Idk brah. I get hit hardcore with lowered sex drive from Tren. Maybe proviron or Masteron would help but eh



When on tren I want to dink slap every 3+/10 girl I see. Not sure if srs

Itachi
2015-01-22, 08:37 PM
When on tren I want to dink slap every 3+/10 girl I see. Not sure if srs

Literally makes me not want to have sex and weak ass erections. Without prami at .5mgs ED Im just fucked. Srs.

Hc7
2015-01-22, 08:44 PM
525 tren ace
500 sust
100 drol
300 mast

Prepare yourself for nothing but gains, lose fat and still be pretty dry.

Metalhead32
2015-01-22, 08:50 PM
525 tren ace
500 sust
100 drol
300 mast

Prepare yourself for nothing but gains, lose fat and still be pretty dry.

That dose of mast actually give noticeable effect?

XxqueeferbrahxxX
2015-01-23, 12:48 AM
Tren and anadrol experiences while cutting chode?

zarch
2015-01-23, 01:30 AM
I'm consider prop and ace, any thoughts on dosages?

Mitch666
2015-01-23, 01:55 AM
I'm consider prop and ace, any thoughts on dosages?



hc7 literally just posted dosage recommendations


if you're bulking/recomp I'd do exactly that. Cutting lower test.

KLAX
2015-01-23, 12:07 PM
525 tren ace
500 sust
100 drol
300 mast

Prepare yourself for nothing but gains, lose fat and still be pretty dry.

What's your reasoning for sustanon over other forms of test?

FinaWhoa
2015-01-24, 02:59 PM
hc7 literally just posted dosage recommendations
if you're bulking/recomp I'd do exactly that. Cutting lower test.

Hard to help those who won't try to help themselves innit m8?

These conversations are drawn out so let's get it over with

HC is your go-to... try his cycle

If not you have the following options

test:tren

1:1
2:1
1:2 ratios

that's it. Side effects are different with each. Gains are different with each.
The ratio won't be a cut or a bulk - that's your diet; ya'll still seem to have a hard time grasping that concept.
The ratio, will determine side effects and your outward appearance/ look

Finally, the most important aspect of everything is that the above is based on the individual aka you can't just read about it and hope it happens... you have to choose one, do it, and expect to modulate estrogen/ prolactin respectively. Remember, if you're using UGL, you don't know what the actual purity/ concentration of your gear is, or if you got a bunk batch of test, or a bunk batch of tren... you're shooting in the dark.

So long story short, instead of theorizing about all of the little facts, and wasting tons of time creating the 'perfect protocol', you're better off just trying it and taking notes as you go - otherwise you spend all of this time seeking perfection, all to find out that your body responds completely backwards from what is expected, and that's just disappointing and can lead to self-defeat.

If there is no hurry and you have a solid source my recommendation is to go on TRT dose of test for 4 weeks, draw labs and have it so your trough-point is at ~800ng/dL with a 25-35 E2. At that point, start adding Tren ace and watch how your body responds to everything. Change protocol at 2 week increments. Viola...

Then repeat with double TRT doses when you master the above. Note: hope that all batches are the same of gear so you can replicate. You can only draw labs while on test, you won't be able to track what happens when tren is in the mix as things get messed up.

And remember, estrogen is what fucks you, keep that sucker in check AKA crush it a little ahead of time before adding tren, aka if you're at 25-35 on TRT, up your AI to get it to 15-20 before introducing a substance that abuses any run-off/ fluctuating E2.

G'luck