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    What do you mean by a year?

    Like a year-long cycle then just PCT off? Seems a little silly to do it this way. Are you planning on running any HCG anywhere throughout it to help with keeping the ol' boys nice and full?
    I have to chime in with the others and say 750mg is a lot, low dose over long periods of time works best with long esters like enanthate, you'll really make a ton of gains even off 250mg/wk for a year due to the accumulating effect.

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    I am not best body here, but i have done a lot of mistakes.

    Mate just buy some TestE and MastE vials and a couple of Arimidex boxes... Start at 300 TestE - 200 MastE for a good 8 weeks then raise dose by half CC both AAS.

    Start from a 4-6 weeks lean and depleted state:
    16w 300 TestE 200 MastE (BLAST)
    16w 450 TestE 300 MastE (BLAST)
    16w 600 TestE 400 MastE (BLAST)
    4w 150 TestE 200 MastE (CRUISE)

    Meawhile you will learn how to WORKOUT PROPERLY and EAT PROPERLY, in a year you should put on a good amount of MASS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trenboloney View Post
    What do you mean by a year?

    Like a year-long cycle then just PCT off? Seems a little silly to do it this way. Are you planning on running any HCG anywhere throughout it to help with keeping the ol' boys nice and full?
    I have to chime in with the others and say 750mg is a lot, low dose over long periods of time works best with long esters like enanthate, you'll really make a ton of gains even off 250mg/wk for a year due to the accumulating effect.
    Nope blast and cruise. Bulk up blasts and cut on cruises
    . Also have hcg and pct stuff if anything comes up but I won't be using it if not

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trenpizza View Post
    I am not best body here, but i have done a lot of mistakes.

    Mate just buy some TestE and MastE vials and a couple of Arimidex boxes... Start at 300 TestE - 200 MastE for a good 8 weeks then raise dose by half CC both AAS.

    Start from a 4-6 weeks lean and depleted state:
    16w 300 TestE 200 MastE (BLAST)
    16w 450 TestE 300 MastE (BLAST)
    16w 600 TestE 400 MastE (BLAST)
    4w 150 TestE 200 MastE (CRUISE)

    Meawhile you will learn how to WORKOUT PROPERLY and EAT PROPERLY, in a year you should put on a good amount of MASS.
    Was thinking about something similar actually except 250 test e and just a dbol in beginning and anavar to end for next blasts although test would probably be dropped to 100-150 during cruise (just to see how I do) I have one testicle so I honestly think I was producing less test than most of the guys here so would need trt in future anywaysm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deltbrahs View Post
    Nope blast and cruise. Bulk up blasts and cut on cruises
    . Also have hcg and pct stuff if anything comes up but I won't be using it if not
    True.

    I'd advise rolling with some HCG at least somepoint through, though.

    Anyways just don't go too ham, you really don't need a whole ton of gear to make excellent gains

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    Quote Originally Posted by trenboloney View Post
    True.

    I'd advise rolling with some HCG at least somepoint through, though.

    Anyways just don't go too ham, you really don't need a whole ton of gear to make excellent gains
    Yea ik read above. This blast has definitly made me realize how much more important nutrition and recovery is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deltbrahs View Post
    Yea ik read above. This blast has definitly made me realize how much more important nutrition and recovery is.
    Your shit looks straight then, go for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deltbrahs View Post
    also don't plan on having kids or living past 55
    Yeah that is going to change, but I thought the same way when I was your age.
    Just so you know, If you throw me out I will probably kill you and everyone that is around us - PJ Braun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trenpizza View Post
    I am not best body here, but i have done a lot of mistakes.

    Mate just buy some TestE and MastE vials and a couple of Arimidex boxes... Start at 300 TestE - 200 MastE for a good 8 weeks then raise dose by half CC both AAS.

    Start from a 4-6 weeks lean and depleted state:
    16w 300 TestE 200 MastE (BLAST)
    16w 450 TestE 300 MastE (BLAST)
    16w 600 TestE 400 MastE (BLAST)
    4w 150 TestE 200 MastE (CRUISE)

    Meawhile you will learn how to WORKOUT PROPERLY and EAT PROPERLY, in a year you should put on a good amount of MASS.
    why mast e? that shit is weak with those doses. if you want to save money, just replace that with a cc of deca

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeezbrah View Post
    why mast e? that shit is weak with those doses. if you want to save money, just replace that with a cc of deca
    mast e would help you look better and require less/no ai.

    for max efficiency i'd just use test and letro tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftzing View Post
    Yeah that is going to change, but I thought the same way when I was your age.
    eh 50 is a lot tbh. seeing my dad live past 50 is depressing tbh. Do want kiddos tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trenosaurus View Post
    Lol when my mom found my stash she tried to take it, but i told her "i'm a grown ass man, i have the right to make my own decisions, and i want my steroids back" and i got them back lol. She even got me a used needle storage container so i could stop putting them in protein tubs.

    10/10 would recommend
    Haha. Protein tubes are the best for used needles. Fills up quick when pinning Tren A tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeezbrah View Post
    why mast e? that shit is weak with those doses. if you want to save money, just replace that with a cc of deca
    The Masteron was there just to give him a better appeal... Ofc Deca will be better, gain wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deltbrahs View Post
    Already read through it lol I'm pretty sure I matured already my whole family is made up of manlets and I haven't grown since 7th grade. Already have facial hair, was stronger, faster then everyone else in middle school then high school everyone just passed me also don't plan on having kids or living past 55
    juicing isn't gonna prevent you from living past 55.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mayobrah View Post
    juicing isn't gonna prevent you from living past 55.
    what I'm trying to get at is that idc if it lowers my life span

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftzing View Post
    Yeah that is going to change, but I thought the same way when I was your age.
    Have any of you seen studies on how B&C affects male fertility? I have a feeling it's way overblown, but I could be very wrong. I personally come off and pct anyways, I do want kids someday .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deltbrahs View Post
    what I'm trying to get at is that idc if it lowers my life span
    Live fast, die young <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProgressiveOverloads69 View Post
    Have any of you seen studies on how B&C affects male fertility? I have a feeling it's way overblown, but I could be very wrong. I personally come off and pct anyways, I do want kids someday .
    I do have to say, I did get someone pregnant while on a cruise..... long story, but she wasn't taking her BC and I didn't know.
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    Once you hop on you'll have a different opinion and want to keep getting bigger faster, just do normal blasts.

    Wear hoodies at home and after workouts so u dont look as big

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