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    if someone was cutting on test only what would be better 250mg a wk or 500+?

    not cutting for a show or anything just to look good tho would 250mg suffice to cut for a few months before a big blast?
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    250 mg + lots of protein is more than likely enough. Unless you're pro level, 250 is enough to cut on, but might be hard to build on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmane123 View Post
    not cutting for a show or anything just to look good tho would 250mg suffice to cut for a few months before a big blast?
    250 should be fine. Until you get close to the single digits i wouldn't see muscle loss being an issue.

    Any muscle loss would immediately come back when you blast.

    Better to have the time for your body to normalize imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McMegaman View Post
    250 mg + lots of protein is more than likely enough. Unless you're pro level, 250 is enough to cut on, but might be hard to build on.
    reason i want to do 250mg is i tried doing cardio n 500+ n legs get too pumped to do intense cardio on the elitpical machine
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmane123 View Post
    reason i want to do 250mg is i tried doing cardio n 500+ n legs get too pumped to do intense cardio on the elitpical machine
    Take taurine before cardio and if you still get painful pumps while on only 250 mg test you have some other shit in your body lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmane123 View Post
    reason i want to do 250mg is i tried doing cardio n 500+ n legs get too pumped to do intense cardio on the elitpical machine
    @McMegaman 5 to 7g taurine kept pumps away on 400 test 400 mast and winny/tbol

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    Quote Originally Posted by FancyToenail View Post
    @McMegaman 5 to 7g taurine kept pumps away on 400 test 400 mast and winny/tbol
    but i want pumps for lifting tho so should i take it after im done lifting?
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    What bf are you cutting to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmane123 View Post
    but i want pumps for lifting tho so should i take it after im done lifting?
    You still get pumps, but they dont hurt. Try it and report back
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmane123 View Post
    but i want pumps for lifting tho so should i take it after im done lifting?
    You'll get pumps but not the ones that hurt. Crippling shin and back pumps didn't happen. But lifting is no issue. I would get forearm and calve pumps from driving.

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    Why not just do less fork to mouth reps? Best wishes with the cutting though, ded srs, we’re all gonna make it.
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    As far as what? Preserving muscle? It won't make a big difference, more anabolics will always be better in terms of pretty much anything though. You've asked this a few times now it seems, if you're gonna blast when you're cut to a healthy range 250mg is best so you don't have to worry about health markers sitting at 500mg test for extended periods of time

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    Why did u make another thread asking the same shit. Thought u were a "steroid guru" to be asking such a noob question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilleo187 View Post
    Why did u make another thread asking the same shit. Thought u were a "steroid guru" to be asking such a noob question.
    Probably because he is looking for anecdotal advice on an area he is less versed in? Not everyone wants to run back to back tren "cruises"just to bloat up and "cruise" again on tren

    Don't throw rocks in a glass house you're one of the least educated children on all aspects of lifting diet and aas

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    Quote Originally Posted by FancyToenail View Post
    Probably because he is looking for anecdotal advice on an area he is less versed in? Not everyone wants to run back to back tren "cruises"just to bloat up and "cruise" again on tren

    Don't throw rocks in a glass house you're one of the least educated children on all aspects of lifting diet and aas
    this lol @ so many twinks on here that run back to 2 back cycles n cruises with no results and they cant even bench 300 after yrs of juicing pathetic
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    allow me to bogart your thread for a moment bloatlord?
    I'm bulking on 500MG test e/wk atm. I wanna bloatcut starting in feb. If I stayed on 500mg test e for the first month that I transition from bulk to cut and then drop down to a cruise dose, will I keep more of my muscle?

    as opposed to dropping from 500-250 when I start cutting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffieh View Post
    allow me to bogart your thread for a moment bloatlord?
    I'm bulking on 500MG test e/wk atm. I wanna bloatcut starting in feb. If I stayed on 500mg test e for the first month that I transition from bulk to cut and then drop down to a cruise dose, will I keep more of my muscle?

    as opposed to dropping from 500-250 when I start cutting.
    You'll lose glycogen and some water if you're retaining that's about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffieh View Post
    allow me to bogart your thread for a moment bloatlord?
    I'm bulking on 500MG test e/wk atm. I wanna bloatcut starting in feb. If I stayed on 500mg test e for the first month that I transition from bulk to cut and then drop down to a cruise dose, will I keep more of my muscle?

    as opposed to dropping from 500-250 when I start cutting.
    When lowering test dose, just eat slightly over maintance for a couple of weeks, and then start your cut. Instead of jumping into cut immediately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FancyToenail View Post
    You'll lose glycogen and some water if you're retaining that's about it

    So it wouldn't really make a difference? Good to know.

    Quote Originally Posted by McMegaman View Post
    When lowering test dose, just eat slightly over maintance for a couple of weeks, and then start your cut. Instead of jumping into cut immediately.
    I guess my question was, would staying on 500MG and jumping straight into the cut do the same thing as what you just said, muscle retention wise? Keeping in mind I'm not near natty potential probably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffieh View Post
    So it wouldn't really make a difference? Good to know.



    I guess my question was, would staying on 500MG and jumping straight into the cut do the same thing as what you just said, muscle retention wise? Keeping in mind I'm not near natty potential probably.
    Probably, but the way I posted is way easier and feels better imo. No need to cut on 500 mg if you're not even natty limit.
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