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    Senior Member Medically Fat's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by frump94 View Post
    Many reasons, but not limited too;

    -shitty genetics
    -shitty training program or training only for the pump (this only works for guys on grams of gear and elite genetics)
    -shitty diet
    -didn't come anywhere near their genetic limit for strength and size before hopping on
    -using steroids at 20%+ bodyfat
    -partying and drinking heavily on the weekends
    blasphemy and very wrong


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    Only answer is bc if you're fat/out of shape, and take steroids, you're just fat and on steroids now.
    It's not magic.
    So they recover faster, lift more etc, but they are still fat. Cut down to 10% they would look like wgat you think they should mostly.
    Strength/Filt Log
    [url]http://www.fitmisc.net/forum/showthread.php?124579-2nd-Blast-Log-Still-Natty-Though/page2&p=1629028#post1629028[url]

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    Shit diet
    Shit routine
    Shit everything tbh

    You still have to bust your ass to get swole

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medically Fat View Post
    chads gain 50 pounds of muscle from one cycle and incels gain 5 etc
    Chads will mog incels into eternity. Such is the cycle of life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Blaha's bulging red speedo View Post
    I think this is a legitimate question. I hope the other users can give a serious answer instead of calling you a twink etc.

    Iím no expert on roids and gear, but I think genetics are a factor. If you are naturally built, youíll be even more built on gear. But you also must account for training and nutrition. Roids are not magic, you have to follow some protocol.
    From my experience the vast majority of aas users start off skinny, followed by bigger guys who have a higher bf and a shitload of muscle.....then there is the 3rd group like these guys.

    The dogshit guys who were not skinny or builtfat, but rather pudgy no muscle milk titty betamales. They have way too much bodyfat and no muscle to counteract the fat, so that with them not knowing anything about lifting sets them up for failure. Plus most are lazy and keep the same dog shit diet and work ethic as before.

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    bloat for life

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medically Fat View Post
    blasphemy and very wrong

    lol. If you're pulling 600lbs+ or squatting 500lbs+, then it's acceptable to have a little extra pudge on roids because you probably have a shit load of muscle underneath the fat which you could shed and look amazing. But if you're on roids and fat, yet still can't bench 3 plates, squat 4 and deadlift 5, then you should quit while you're head and take up knitting or cuckolding as a hobby instead

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    I hate people like this. If your results suck this bad you shouldn't be giving others advice or making any sort of videos. You should be trying to learn from those who have success

    Bad genetics
    Bad diet
    Bad drugs
    Bad training
    Poor work ethic


    In order to look this bad you likely have to have...all of those ticked off. This dude has run numerous grams of gear countless times. It's truly pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nonsense916 View Post
    You do realize there are different doses and types. The people that look like shit are probably doing low doses of test. You can’t expect everyone to look freaky on roids
    Even on low doses you should still look athletic. The examples in the op look like pillow cases filled with cottage cheese. They are just pinning gear and punching the card at the gym with fuck all intensity.

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    They don't know what they are doing.

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    not training enough
    overeating in delusions of bloat


    honestly that's basically it
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    Stay mad, Corky.

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    I'm natty af I don't even take creatine cause it made my hair fall of like crazy

    tfw I could probably hit 300 pounds lean after a couple of cycles
    bitch i might be
    bitch i might be
    bitch i might be

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Blaha's bulging red speedo View Post
    I think this is a legitimate question. I hope the other users can give a serious answer instead of calling you a twink etc.

    Iím no expert on roids and gear, but I think genetics are a factor. If you are naturally built, youíll be even more built on gear. But you also must account for training and nutrition. Roids are not magic, you have to follow some protocol.
    Genetics are everything for everything
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    military doesnt except below 85 iq
    MicrowavedBlaha

    This 31 year old 10$ survery-filling MILLIONARE Paid CASH for his house when he was 28. You can't make up bigger delusions than this shit.

    Quote Originally Posted by microwavedbeef View Post
    i payed cash when i was 28

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    idiots dont realize it has to do with your starting test, the faggot in the video is on trt, he had low test and is getting trt from doctor just enough to get him to normal or maybe a little higher, dumbas retarded op thinking he is blasting like fake natties

    first guy is also a nobb on a low doses

    dumbass op thinking steroids are magical lmao

    fake natties on youtube look that way because they had normal to high test + blasting which results in lots of test, they never get off the juice

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    Quote Originally Posted by stud93 View Post
    These are the people who call shredded dudes "twinks"

    This one is a typical neckbeard who trolls forums.

    I use gear and I look darn good for that as I do train.
    Never give up, never give in, never go down without a fight

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    Bad mentality

    You need to learn how to get into the right mental state

    It has nothing to do with genetics or hormone, although you could say having a certain mindset is allowed by genetics

    Its not about natural testosterone when you are natty, thats cope from people who cant do it. A fraction of people not good enough at lifting who cant do it natty are even worse than that and cant do it with steroids. Most can somewhat do it with steroids (if you call loooking weak but puffed and muscular making it) and very few can do it natty.

    I have low t and I am successful as a natural.
    Last edited by BLOOM; 2018-01-13 at 12:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrotherBlaha View Post
    Wow wtf.
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    Why are you mad tho?

    Youíre really mad at yourself for not being man enough to inject yourself with a needle. Enhanced brahs do t give a fuck about natties so do you care about jukcers??? Because secretly you want to juice so bad but you lack cojones

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    Quote Originally Posted by Injectatron View Post
    Why are you mad tho?

    You’re really mad at yourself for not being man enough to inject yourself with a needle. Enhanced brahs do t give a fuck about natties so do you care about jukcers??? Because secretly you want to juice so bad but you lack cojones
    At one point I pussied out as I had bad experience with needles now I got to the point pinning is easy peasy. A few times I get crippling PIP if I injected too deep or if I nicked a nerve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MindlessWork View Post
    At one point I pussied out as I had bad experience with needles now I got to the point pinning is easy peasy. A few times I get crippling PIP if I injected too deep or if I nicked a nerve.
    sometimes its painless, and sometimes piercing the skin hurts like a bitch, kind of annoying. it sucks having thicker skin


 
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