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    Quote Originally Posted by Glizzy View Post
    Thanks for the motivation. Today I had to cut a workout short because I had the opportunity to get laid. I managed to complete all the top set (OHP) reps and hit my top set amrap of 145 for 5 and 100 for 29 (lightheaded after that). But after that, I had to leave. Should I just do the remaining rep work later tonight or before tommorow's workout?
    Shouldnt be a problem to go later and finish the workout. Thats what i would probably do, but thats cause i hate skipping days. Good ohp numbers. I just hit 140x4.

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    Week 2 Day 3 OHP Day

    Hit all main lifts prescribed for the day, hit top amrap OHP set of 145 for 5, 100 for 29, hit all accessory reps need to lower weight on curls and lat raises next week

    Quote Originally Posted by chestbrother View Post
    Shouldnt be a problem to go later and finish the workout. Thats what i would probably do, but thats cause i hate skipping days. Good ohp numbers. I just hit 140x4.
    Haha it's a race then of the slowest of increments. I went back and finished the workout, got all my reps in, hit all of the second lift numbers. I hate not following the plan so I also hate taking days off in this instance.

    If you ever find yourself in a place without barbell equipment, do you just use the next best available equipment like dbs/machines/bodyweight? I will be going away from my gym so I may be in this situation for my saturday and tuesday workouts (week 2 day 5, week 3 day 1 workouts)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glizzy View Post
    Week 2 Day 3 OHP Day

    Hit all main lifts prescribed for the day, hit top amrap OHP set of 145 for 5, 100 for 29, hit all accessory reps need to lower weight on curls and lat raises next week



    Haha it's a race then of the slowest of increments. I went back and finished the workout, got all my reps in, hit all of the second lift numbers. I hate not following the plan so I also hate taking days off in this instance.

    If you ever find yourself in a place without barbell equipment, do you just use the next best available equipment like dbs/machines/bodyweight? I will be going away from my gym so I may be in this situation for my saturday and tuesday workouts (week 2 day 5, week 3 day 1 workouts)
    Pretty much man. Are you not gonna be able to the main lift at all or the assistance work? I have never been in a situation like yours yet, but i think doing something with high volume like machines or weighted dips wouldnt hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chestbrother View Post
    Pretty much man. Are you not gonna be able to the main lift at all or the assistance work? I have never been in a situation like yours yet, but i think doing something with high volume like machines or weighted dips wouldnt hurt.
    Hopefully can just get a free pass for the Saturday workout at some local gym where I am going and tuesday workout I should be back to just go to my gym hopefully. So hopefully, I can just mitigate any straying from schedule this time. Will keep in mind your suggestion though.

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    Week 2 Day 4 Deadlift Day bw 165.5

    Hit top amrap set of 345 for 8, failed at 9th, hit other amrap set of 235 for 22, my face get crazy red after these sets, hit all front squats but they were harder than I thought they should be, accessories went well, I have switched barbell calf raises to machine calf raises today as there is only one barbell rack at the gym

    Btw to follow up on above post, I implied I was going to get laid but all I got was blueballs..
    Last edited by Glizzy; 2018-05-11 at 08:47 PM. Reason: added bw bc it is lower than it should be

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    Week 2 Day 5 5/12/18 Heavy bench day

    Hit top amrap set of 225 for 8 and amrap set of 155 for 28, made it to a nice local gym and had a good workout

    Week 2 Day 6 5/13/18
    got additional back and grip work in

    Week 3 Increases: I will increase my training maxes as follows: squat +10 pounds, bench + 10 pounds, OHP +5 pounds , deadlift +10 pounds

    Week 3 Day 1 Lighter bench day 5/15/18
    hit all numbers, hit amrap set of 160 for 26

    bw is 163.6 so I actually went down in weight on my vacation, probably water but down 2 pounds since 5/11/18
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    Week 3 Day 2 - May 16 2018 - Squat Day

    Hit top amrap set of 275 for 8 and last amrap set of 190 for 26, hit all main reps for squat and sumo deadlifts, hit most accessory movements

    bw is 164.4, thanks for the support @clusterfuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glizzy View Post
    thanks for the support @clusterfuck
    yw


    you also increased your bench by 10 instead of 5 you could stall early doing this if you are not careful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clusterfuck View Post
    yw


    you also increased your bench by 10 instead of 5 you could stall early doing this if you are not careful.
    You don't even lift tho why are you giving advice? You have gyno, you're over 40% bf, like srs?.?



    Keep it up op, great job.
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    Week 3 Day 3 OHP Day

    Hit top amrap set of 150 for 6, last amrap set of 105 for 32, did not miss a single prescribed lift today although had to switch around exercise order a bit due to crowding, bw today is 166.4


    Quote Originally Posted by clusterfuck View Post
    yw
    you also increased your bench by 10 instead of 5 you could stall early doing this if you are not careful.
    Do you mean my week 3 increase in bench training max from from 235 to 245? But I got top set of bench in week 2 for 8 reps so I should increase by 10 pounds from 235 to 245 correct? I definitely don't want to stall early but the program states: "If you get 5+ Reps, increase your TM by 10-15lb" so increasing by 10 from 235 to 245 is correct or no? thanks for the help

    Quote Originally Posted by Majutsushi View Post
    Keep it up op, great job.
    thanks!

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    Good work. If your making bigger jumps in weight dont worry. Eventually you are gonna stall and on your top set youll get like 1-2 reps, which in that case you can drop 5-10% of your training max weight and build it back up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glizzy View Post
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    you are doing wendler right?


    increases are as below even if you did 8 reps it doesn't matter 8 reps is not that uncommon.

    squat 10 lbs
    dead 10 lbs

    bench 5 lbs
    press 5 lbs
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    Week 3 Day 4 Deadlift day
    top amrap set of 355 for 6 over under bc forgot straps accidentally, hit amrap set of 245 for 20, hit all numbers but workout was difficult

    bw 166.9

    Quote Originally Posted by chestbrother View Post
    Good work. If your making bigger jumps in weight dont worry. Eventually you are gonna stall and on your top set youll get like 1-2 reps, which in that case you can drop 5-10% of your training max weight and build it back up.
    Thanks, will keep the 5-10% rule in mind for when a stall occurs, hopefully not too soon.

    Quote Originally Posted by clusterfuck View Post
    you are doing wendler right?
    increases are as below even if you did 8 reps it doesn't matter 8 reps is not that uncommon.

    squat 10 lbs
    dead 10 lbs

    bench 5 lbs
    press 5 lbs
    I am following this : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets..._home&ths=true @chestbrother recommended it

    I believe it is a modified version of 531 but this modified version states If you get 5+ Reps, increase your TM by 10-15lb noting no difference between jumps between squat/dead or bench/press. My log is on this spreadsheet and you can see the rules from the planner (I'm guessing it is 2 Suns as the program is called that): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets..._home&ths=true

    Quote Originally Posted by clusterfuck View Post
    I really like that website but I am already following above program, do you recommend I switch to one of those templates? Would it be best to stall out on this template and then switch over to one of these or to immediately change?
    Last edited by Glizzy; 2018-05-18 at 09:06 PM. Reason: added daily update

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glizzy View Post
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    that's not how 531 works wendler even said so specifically in his books I would recommend boring but big or the smart man's program.

    adding too much weight and stalling and lowering weight makes no sense follow the program how it was written.





    https://anonfile.com/sf2bS9ddbf/5-3-1_-_Jim_Wendler.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by clusterfuck View Post
    that's not how 531 works wendler even said so specifically in his books I would recommend boring but big or the smart man's program.

    adding too much weight and stalling and lowering weight makes no sense follow the program how it was written.





    https://anonfile.com/sf2bS9ddbf/5-3-1_-_Jim_Wendler.pdf
    The creator of this modified 531 version describes it as: "According to the creator of the program, reddit user ‘n-Suns’, “The 5/3/1 Linear Progression program is a program variation adapted from Jim Wendler’s ‘531 Spinal Tap’ . It condenses the usual four-week 5/3/1 progression into a single week, adjusts the set order, and adds a second lift variation into a five-day program.” In other words, it is a modified version of a traditional 5-3-1 powerlifting program." So I am assuming that this progression occurs weekly instead of every 4 weeks like in the 5/3/1 program and therefore this program would allow me to progress faster and stall faster? But my plan after stalling would be to continue onto the normal 4 week progression cycles with boring but big or the smart man's program. Does that make sense to stick with this program because of the progression timeframe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glizzy View Post
    So I am assuming that this progression occurs weekly instead of every 4 weeks like in the 5/3/1 program and therefore this program would allow me to progress faster and stall faster?

    sounds like a terrible idea I have included the book in the link you should read the whole book yourself and come to your own conclusion.


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    This is a lot of thought to put into this. For now, let's examine current progress.

    I started with training maxes of 270 for squat, 225 for bench, 360 for deadlift, and 145 for press

    After 2 training cycles I have increased my training maxes to 290 for squat, 245 for bench, 375 for deadlift, and 160 for press.

    I have increased my training maxes by 20 pounds on squat, 20 pounds on bench, 15 pounds on deadlift, and 15 pounds press in two cycles.

    However, if we judge progress based off my 1RMs program based off which is 300 squat, 246 bench, 396 deadlift, and 160 press, I have decreased 10 pounds on squat, 1 pound on bench, 21 pounds on deadlift, and 0 pounds on press in two cycles but this should increase come the following cycles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glizzy View Post
    This is a lot of thought to put into this. For now, let's examine current progress.

    I started with training maxes of 270 for squat, 225 for bench, 360 for deadlift, and 145 for press

    After 2 training cycles I have increased my training maxes to 290 for squat, 245 for bench, 375 for deadlift, and 160 for press.

    I have increased my training maxes by 20 pounds on squat, 20 pounds on bench, 15 pounds on deadlift, and 15 pounds press in two cycles.

    However, if we judge progress based off my 1RMs program based off which is 300 squat, 246 bench, 396 deadlift, and 160 press, I have decreased 10 pounds on squat, 1 pound on bench, 21 pounds on deadlift, and 0 pounds on press in two cycles but this should increase come the following cycles.

    you have your training maxes and you add 10 lbs to lower body squat/dead and 5 pounds to upper body press/bench press every month after the deload week.


    that's 531

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    hit 40 for amrap with 145 on bench


    jesus man.


 
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