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    How much stronger is dbol than test

    1. If a guy takes 100mg dbol/day, how much test E would give equal gains? 1-2g?

    2. Is 100mg dbol superior to 100mg anavar on a bulk? Not talking water here but lean mass

    Honestly dbol seems like the only good oral to take and gives a good mood... no wonder the 70?s pros were popping blue hearts like candy. Imagine if they did the same thing with superdrol or winstrol: become zombies or get a broken shoulder joint


    -anavar/tbol: weak, waste of money
    -superdrol/M1T: AIDS lethargy
    -winstrol: makes my joints akin to that of a 80 year old rheumatic patient
    -anadrol: bloat impossible to control with AI, prolactin, headaches
    -epistane: lethargy

    Any other strong oral that doesnt cause horrible lethargy?

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    Test determines how much muscle mass you can hold. That's why the big guys use grams of it. And Its why lil leo never grows.

    Means your question is the wrong approach.

    Also try S23 if you cant handle methylated orals.

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    All orals cause lethargy

    Just a matter of dose and time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myron Gains View Post
    Test determines how much muscle mass you can hold. That's why the big guys use grams of it. And Its why lil leo never grows.

    Means your question is the wrong approach.

    Also try S23 if you cant handle methylated orals.
    Guys in the 70s were running deca, dbol and were 5x bigger than anyone here so why tf would I need test? People keep wanking about test 24/7 because they are too poor to afford exotic steroids like NPP, masteron.

    And people linked me studies on pubmed showing >200mg test reduces skin collagen similar to Winsrol, which seems reasonable since most modern bodybuilders have disgusting leather skin. I have a huge bodybuilder at my gym, his skin looks like it was bathed in toxic waste.
    Since dbol is a testosterone-derivate I hope it doesn’t have the same effect as test does on collagen
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    Last edited by Dom9; 2019-06-11 at 06:11 PM.

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    Where do you get these off the wall ideas?

    The reason no one does this stuff is becaus it gives crappy results

    Stop trying to reinvent the wheel



    Your cycle should be 500mg test and 1/4 adex pill eod

    Want more results? 3iu hgh

    Want more results? Get stronger

    Want even more results? Get better genetics

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dom9 View Post
    Guys in the 70s were running deca, dbol and were 5x bigger than anyone here so why tf would I need test? People keep wanking about test 24/7 because they are too poor to afford exotic steroids like NPP, masteron. Testosterone is a poor man’s steroid and if you check pubmed there’s several studies which show that if you inject >200mg test/week it reduces skin collagen. That’s why modern bodybuilders have disgusting lesther skin compared to the guys in the 70’s like Mentzer, Arnold, franco
    They took grams of deca esp mentzer who lived on 2-3g deca a week

    They had elite genetics and were bigger as natural teenagers than you as an adult on grams of gear

    What they did have no bearing on what you need

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    Quote Originally Posted by longNStrong View Post
    They took grams of deca esp mentzer who lived on 2-3g deca a week

    They had elite genetics and were bigger as natural teenagers than you as an adult on grams of gear

    What they did have no bearing on what you need
    So they were 5x bigger than anyone here and they ran deca, dbol.

    Nandrolone is more anabolic than testosterone. Why tf would I need testosterone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dom9 View Post
    Guys in the 70s were running deca, dbol and were 5x bigger than anyone here so why tf would I need test? People keep wanking about test 24/7 because they are too poor to afford exotic steroids like NPP, masteron. Testosterone is a poor man?s steroid and if you check pubmed there?s several studies which show that if you inject >200mg test/week it reduces skin collagen. That?s why modern bodybuilders have disgusting lesther skin compared to the guys in the 70?s like Mentzer, Arnold, franco
    Yes and those guys are top tier genetics, and are tiny compared to todays BBers (sans OG Hulk $20 a picture guy)

    Im aware of the collagen issues with Test, its why Ive only blasted it @ 500mg for 3 months in the entire time ive been on, but you are on all these other drugs that will fuck you up in other ways lel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dom9 View Post
    Why tf would I need testosterone?
    This is why there are women who are bigger than you natty

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    Honestly this is why I lean towards maybe we should have eugenics, genocides, discrimination, all that stuff lol.
    Bc people like this exist
    And they vote
    They have kids

    Nigga why do you care about your skin anyway that’s the least of your worries
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myron Gains View Post
    This is why there are women who are bigger than you natty
    To be fair you’ve made the worst progress on gear on this entire forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesavagestallion View Post
    To be fair you?ve made the worst progress on gear on this entire forum
    this is true, you should motivate me by showing your current picture to show what a physique that rivals the statue of David looks like

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myron Gains View Post
    this is true, you should motivate me by showing your current picture to show what a physique that rivals the statue of David looks like
    You think I don?t look those jjst because I?m natura or


    You?re just really impressed with my
    Body and want an update
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesavagestallion View Post
    You think I don?t look those jjst because I?m natura or


    You?re just really impressed with my
    Body and want an update
    235 @ 6'3" natty = fat

    youre 10lbs above longnstrong who is on 300mg test usually and 10yrs training around 8% bf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myron Gains View Post
    235 @ 6'3" natty = fat

    youre 10lbs above longnstrong who is on 300mg test usually and 10yrs training around 8% bf
    I just started working out.

    I?ve been training for a long time but obviously I can lose all my gains.


    Why are you tryna only capitalize when you think I?m weak?

    Man of low character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dom9 View Post
    So they were 5x bigger than anyone here and they ran deca, dbol.

    Nandrolone is more anabolic than testosterone. Why tf would I need testosterone?
    No it isn?t

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dom9 View Post
    Guys in the 70s were running deca, dbol and were 5x bigger than anyone here so why tf would I need test? People keep wanking about test 24/7 because they are too poor to afford exotic steroids like NPP, masteron.

    And people linked me studies on pubmed showing >200mg test reduces skin collagen similar to Winsrol, which seems reasonable since most modern bodybuilders have disgusting leather skin. I have a huge bodybuilder at my gym, his skin looks like it was bathed in toxic waste.
    Since dbol is a testosterone-derivate I hope it doesn?t have the same effect as test does on collagen
    Link:
    https://link.springer.com/article/10...357-016-9910-5
    if you know so much and cant handle criticism then just run what you want and when you have shit results make the thread tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dom9 View Post
    So they were 5x bigger than anyone here and they ran deca, dbol.

    Nandrolone is more anabolic than testosterone. Why tf would I need testosterone?
    Deca is the only thing that has seen success being used as a TRT replacement with science backing it. So if you run deca maybe you will get away with no test? Idk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Real GeorgiePeck View Post
    Deca is the only thing that has seen success being used as a TRT replacement with science backing it. So if you run deca maybe you will get away with no test? Idk
    that would have to be low dose DECA then, same with low dose MENT, its not the same as blasting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dom9 View Post
    Guys in the 70s were running deca, dbol and were 5x bigger than anyone here so why tf would I need test? People keep wanking about test 24/7 because they are too poor to afford exotic steroids like NPP, masteron.

    And people linked me studies on pubmed showing >200mg test reduces skin collagen similar to Winsrol, which seems reasonable since most modern bodybuilders have disgusting leather skin. I have a huge bodybuilder at my gym, his skin looks like it was bathed in toxic waste.
    Since dbol is a testosterone-derivate I hope it doesn?t have the same effect as test does on collagen
    Link:
    https://link.springer.com/article/10...357-016-9910-5
    Nice article, if you read it stop the effects

    Just need a Gas6 blocker and R428

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